I will most likely attend Johns Hopkins and do a fellowship with Yale, but I know the road wont be easy. Its really sad. Can I ask what Post-bacc program you did? And not just for those with a less competitive MCAT or GPA! Anyhow, I didnt mean for this to be long. If you ran the slide Hi, I am also Nigerian who is currently enrolled in a Canadian university and considering the Caribbean after my undergraduate degree I would be glad to speak with you. If you wanted to be a dermatologist and got a 230 on Step, it is the equivalent of saying good luck knowing you, you will not be able be a dermatologist.Maybe internal medicine is good for you! All in all, that is how it is. Saba is know to fail people. I applied to Ross, AUC, AUA and Saba. I went to SGU and withdrew in my second semester education was just really bad. America's leading voice on ideal medical care & doctor suicide. After your commitment (marriage) to medical school or being a physician, things could fall apart. Columbia and affiliate IDs are required for entry. I am an AUA med 5 student and having difficulty passing NAME. Having had THREE loved ones in Same Week: three different states have something basic simpleDEAD due to teams of no speakem englishem experimenting on US Citizenry nothing more need be stated. Since I am unable to get into a US medical school, I am applying to SGU. But I also cant speak for the other Caribbean schools, except for this one. Made some great friends there, kept my nose in the books, by no means was I killing it but I got through the 2 years of basic sciences on the island without a hitch. Recently my sis talked to be about almost quitting residency again.. but her husband convinced her otherwise. Why terrify these young people and pit them against one another in for-profit med schools. 3) There are not enough dorms on campus to house this many students. This school charges $45k per term and once you get to clinicals its $60k per term. From my research, students who wish to study medicine but do not get in, oftentimes apply to English-language programs in Poland, Hungary, or Romania to study medicine there (if they can afford it) and then get their degrees validated by the EU as MD-Romania for example. Sorry, you go there just to memorize few booklets to pass the boards without even having the basic knowledge of treating the patients. If we dont achieve 80% attendance, the school may or may not discount some percentage of your grade (1%-5%) but it is an exaggeration that a student automatically fails the semester for not achieving the 80% attendance. Why cant anybody find the true numbers of this school online? Then there are times when I had to take a leave and not know if I will ever find my way back in after losing finances. What happened to primary prevention? I was once a newcomer myself and someone may have thought I was incapable, but they were wrong, I was highly capable, just not confident yet. So no one can tell you about this university like I do because I have 2 years of experience in this university and still I am going to this university. Could you please provide me with your contact or social media profiles. So, if the faculty is accomplished, why would they work for less than they could get in the US? I wish I could recommend SJSM to other med school hopefuls. It starts with us and our behavior with each other. My inner city High school in US was more rough than a Caribbean medical school. I hope your friend makes it through. Yet many of these new graduates dont have the skills to take care of their patients. Their profiles are openly available on sgu.edu, just check them out. Odds are about even with the Florida lottery. My honest advice having having some experience with that route is to not do it because the outcomes are very unpredictable. We also have free academic tutoring either for a group of up to eight students offered by the school, as well as, one-on-one free tutoring services offered by the honors society in the school. Why Saba? . Saba University School of Medicine was founded in 1992 with a bold vision: to establish an international alternative to U.S. and Canadian medical schools that would provide an excellent medical education and expansive career opportunities. Compared to most U.S. medical schools, Sabas requirements arent as difficult to match. I dont know how to reply to Sylvie. Point being, dont give SGU a reason to dismiss you. We only have 600 positions open for clinical rotations so 50 more students will have to go this term in order to make the numbers right. That is hard. in a Good suburb of Newark. Review fee: $500. They hired a lawyer for my friend because she spoke the truth. Personally, I think Saba has a lot to offer that perhaps many students first overlook. Its the only legit one. In terms of being a good school that means its one of the best in the region. -AUA, after the curriculum change does the school have better stats? Maarten, the island nation of Saba is small, quiet and extremely safe with something for everyone to enjoy: from quaint villages and mountain hiking trails to pristine scuba diving and well-regarded inns and restaurants.. How long is Saba med school? I do not regret the fact that I met wonderful people, while being there. My advice, from my heart of hearts, and which I can only give in good conscience, is that you absolutely should not attend Saba University School of Medicine. So many of my colleagues are just a shell of themselves, though prior to med school they too were healers and humanitarians. In 2016, she was accepted to a residency program in family medicine at a hospital in Hendersonville, North Carolina. What school did they graduate from? Nice store, but I would like to say that Nurses, PA, EMT, and ALL other healthcare providers definitely make changes in the world without a doubt. Pauseyou guys have actual cadaver dissections at AUC? When you get into troubles, it is hard, try your best to find the best solution you can. US med school admissions just comes down to simple economics; you have more students than you have seats. Are you ECFMG certified. 5. With that being said, you need to consider that both good and bad students will get in easily, hence why the passing rate are low. The end goal of these schools is to help the student pass the board and match into a residency. 7. Compared to other Caribbean schools, my school is eligible for US government loans and it offers many scholarships to its students. Please I beg you not to go there! or foist horseshit on us such as: Winter They are smiling now and so are most students. corrupt physicans/practices that may hire you. She likely will stay in Atlanta with her dad, but I am trying to consider her in all this (safety, school availability, etc) in case she does want to come with me. And as far as extracurriculars go, youll need to get that minimum 50 hours experience. Things were not running the same, at the same pace or according to expectations when not home. In the US and some countries they filter the applicants prior to entry. The Cayman Islands have St. Matthew's medical school that has an impressive 31.8% match rate. It makes more sense to go to PA school if you can even get in. Beyond that, my understanding is that SGU (the oldest and most established program) now has some type of accreditation issue so that program is no longer a legitimate option. This is not undergraduate, welcome to the majors. Very easy to give up quickly if you are not motivated. When I tried to comeback I was forced to do a re-admission process and was denied re-entry, I was told by one of the members of the admission committee (who was a dear professor) that the dean stepped in personally to block my re-entry. With the FMGEMS horror, and all the abuse, incoming classes went from 150 to 80, to 25 to 12 to ZERO in the span of a few years. After about a month the class will be down to 900 or so. However, against all these warnings, if you do decided to apply, Keep in mind, AUA will take EVERYBODY. I knew it would be impossible to afford a US medical school so I opted for the cheaper Caribbean medical schools. I was wondering if I is true, or they just say that, as I am sure they have plenty of applicants with decent MCAT, why would they consider someone without. I wish to know what University over there in the caribbeans you would recommend from your own cognition and what school you attend now. Some were disappointed about only having a hotplate and microwave to cook with. I am almost one year post-Grenada (doing my clinical rotations in the U.S.) and I still have recurring nightmares of failing out of SGU (with 200,000+ of debt). Luckily, there are many options available to help students fund their master's programme. I actually met one student who got a full tuition scholarship through this program. Two years will fly by. projector for the Anatomy professoryou were exempt from finals. If so, do you think the same things occur around Europe? The American students that apply for this school either 1. were not smart enough to get into a school in the United States or 2. were not working hard enough. They ALSO DID THIS WITH MY OTHER FRIEND. The amount of resources available online is insane. I am forever unimpressed by the medical students that intern for these off-shore programs and would guess that the real appeal is that you dont have to have the intellectual and testing measures to guage competency. Its what you make it. Saba University School of Medicine is one of the world's leading international medical schools, with a 30-year history of educating outstanding doctors. The reality is that some of you shouldnt be in medical school. I am a Nigerian considering medical school too. I registered my car the legal way and had it confiscated at one point-MUCH more aggravation than those that registered as tourists, scraped off the stickers in Brownsville and got new ones. That voice in your head that went, When I get into his/her position I would certainly not be like them, and I will change this bs they put me through for others. California approval is a good indicator of quality because their board is very strict in evaluating a school. If you are like me and know you wont have a chance in the states merely because of hiccups that youve had in your undergraduate school, the Caribbeans is really not a bad place. Hopefully they wont hinder you or affect you beyond what you can handle. The cheating has gone through the roof and theyve taken the curve away. David If you cant handle the environment, try to figure that in term one and leave the school. We rotated through various public, private and military hospitals within the same country. Currently I feel like a clown auditioning for a circus. I graduated from St. Georges University in 2013. Not having to complete an undergraduate degree to apply, certainly makes Saba open to more applicants. Xavier University . SGU in past 10 years drastically increased their medical classes. After reading your post you are insinuating that the school is closing down??!!!!! The problem I have with this is that our school allows students to take on 40K per semester of debt just to dismiss them after 4 or 5 semesters if they fall below an overall GPA below a 75% or having a final grade of below 70% in any one class. I dont regret my experience at AUA because it was simply confirmation that becoming a physician is my destiny. The competitiveness to get into a US school is unbelievable. So, the material you are learning many times isnt even relevant to Step 1. I cannot see myself doing medical school over again from scratch, I invested over 5 years to medical school (including pre-med program) Its painful what I have gone through. My son was doing well but not now. Medical school is hard, it is going to be hard no matter where you go. In fact they may be targeted first. I will take it a step further by stating that many of these places, unfortunately, have wicked people who prey on the students due to the perception that they are wealthy foreigners. But Phil MED is spending fortunes out of pocket cash enrollment not borrowed money. Please help someone. But the biggest take home message I received from this was that this is how were training our physicians in a time where we need heath care practitioners of all types more than ever. According to Congresswoman Karen Bass, of California, a supporter of E.L.A.M., funding is the main problemparticularly under the current Presidential Administration. Think about the Caribbean life, and residency, and being a physician. The medical schools of Saint Kitts and Nevis have a match rate of 45%. I, too came from a Caribbean medical school and am almost finished with my residency training. But it does only accept around 95 students per year! You also dont need a bachelors degree (but rather 3 years of undergraduate studies). Yes, I agree with you that Caribbean schools arent even half as good as the U.S counterparts but at the end of the day, you are responsible for your success regardless of what school you attend U.S or Caribbean. The answer is because they cant find jobs in the US or they arent allowed to work in the US because they dont have visas. (1) Yes, Ive heard SGU did overfill one of their classes. I am Registered Nurse and over thirty five and thinking about going for MD in the Caribbean medical school. Some have better residency match rates than others so beware. Any raising of ones voice to any injustice us foreign students faced was punished one way or another. I know that saba has an extremely small class size which is very appealing to me as I believe an individualized learning approach is where i thrive however i also know that i need to self study as well on my own which i am not too scared of. These students usually pay 2 to 3 times more in tuition, so schools will typically allow them to apply and a certain number will get accepted further limiting available seats. Everyone will ask you for the money. Hi, We lose someone because pre-med and Biological science major was hard, there is nothing easy about the road to medicine. One thing I would tell you is not to judge newcomers so harshly in the moment and understand that everyone reaches their potential at different rates. 240 comments, https://www.idealmedicalcare.org/blog/bambi-syndrome/, Secrets to loving your life in healthcare, Frank H Netter MD School of Medicine 2019. i know SABA has an extremely small class size i have heard positive reviews on it and would love to know if you know of these schools rep or know anyone who went to them and their experiences. Register to our upcoming in-person events and webinars! Saba University School of Medicine is one of the world's leading international medical schools, with a more than 20-year history of educating outstanding physicians. Needless to say his practice took a huge financial hit and hes actually now being sued for malpractice. Some left because they couldnt handle it academically. I am hoping to enter the May 2018 Class. I withdrew from AUA my second semester this year,because I saw that many of my upper med friends were facing the harsh reality of what would become a broken dream and needless to say massive student loan debt. If it was your family at jeopardy, would you say the same worse yet, they are or they claim they are medical school. Given im a first generation college student in my family, noone has good credit in my family, I have been unable to even transfer out to any other caribbean school because of an inability to finance my education. It is emotionally trying. I dont know the current overall attrition rate at Saba because it varies a lot per semester and it is getting progressively worse in recent years due to changes in management and administration. Ohio used to, but theyve just ended the program. Some one need to go after this any stop to start with 800 kids and box size room . There are terrible emotional and financial consequences when informed consent is lacking as these idealistic humanitarians forge ahead off shore toward their medical degrees. The other big schools with federal loan programs do not take transfers, or they do but with USMLEs which I never took. Unfortunately for some, you do have to crack open a textbook once in awhile. Like do you feel you were placed in a hospital where there was a good amount of patho-physiological diversified cases. My daughter goes to St.George University School of Medicine.I can only say good things.Their stats in USMLE passing rates are great much higher then US DO Schools.Resendency matching rates are fantastic.This School is harder to get in to,but highly recommend it.They post everything on line ,that you want to know,including name of student and resedency placed in by individual state in the US.The university is very organized,and makes best effort even for families,boyfriends of fiances that have accompanied the Med or Vet Student for the 5 quarters they have to stay in Grenada. I personally believe that the greater part of the problem lies right here, in the United States of America. But I guess thats more reasonable than going to that one Phil MED school allowing US Student Loans and US MED/Caribbean Territory rates. For profit and disgustingly greedy for money are two different things; I havent even gotten to the best part yet! Its equipped with a nice and big gym that is located in front of the schools beach. Does anyone see this as a call for help ? Many of us miss our families; we have missed family celebrations and parties at our best friends house. How much do Caribbean medical schools cost? I graduated last fall from undergrad with honors and distinction completing a double major. The staff is disconnected and said either repeat the term after you seek medical attention or just quit. Those of you who are considering medicine as a career field need to understand that medical school is perhaps the best part of the training process. I, myself had my apartment broken into at 3am and experienced face to face confrontation with the intruder. Do you mind telling me if your classes were huge like SGU or more manageable? The fact that Saba takes so few students (around 90 per year), may point to a fairly low acceptance rate. Thats why I was like, comparing doesnt help. Saba graduates have enjoyed great success in securing residencies. However, problems arise when the balance between profits and obligations to the students (customers) become heavily skewed in favor of the school, when lying becomes normal and illegal activities occur. What he did not like was the attrition rate at SABA. But take AUA out of the equation right now before he gets stuck at a school with no testing authority. However, in the end it was all worth it. I would challenge you to speak with doctors in America now (brilliant doctors I may add) who attained their medical degrees from Nigeria and ask them what life as a medical student in Nigeria was like. Things all happen for a reason. Hi Sara! In all honesty, AUA is all about the money. For those willing to succeed and work hard this school has provided an opportunity for that dream. For the UK, which has the advantage of English-language instruction, it is the same very competitive to get in. Saba students earn top residencies at medical centers across the US and Canada. But behind such ridiculous numbers lies some logical reasoning. Are you real? I am writing to you to share my own perspective of Caribbean medical schools, as I am a student of Ross University and currently in my 4th year. (Just looked up stats online). 75% of Sabas students go on to graduate, attain a medical degree and then find residency (usually in internal or family medicine). I know this is a late response, but perhaps it might help others. Its ongoing, so may be things happen, even if it wasnt your fault or if it was, you cant begin to explain to people why they even happened, but all you know is you will do better than they expect from you. Our fail rate is just higher in the first 2 semesters, so if you make it to the 3rd semester, hardly anyone fails after that. I think what is missing is the transparency on the part of the schools. How much is Saba University School of Medicine? 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